First to market on 200 probates a month in Minnesota
From zero real estate sales experience to a first to market probate system built solo: 83 records and a hot lead in month one.
About
Cecilia Sirovina left the company she worked with in California to start her own wholesaling operation as a one-person team. She wholesales to feed a rental portfolio she already runs in Minnesota, two short-term rentals bought off the MLS.
Operating market
She markets in Minnesota, the state she knows and bought in, while living in California. Her probate pulls cover three counties, all filed through one Minnesota court website.
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The Challenge
Cecilia moved to California and spent years working with an investment group there, trying to crack one of the most competitive markets in the country. When she broke off to start her own company, she had no real estate sales experience and no pipeline. She had watched California operators overpay for marketing, burn budgets on PPC and cold callers, and feed every returned dollar into next month's overhead. She did not want that model.
Shiny object syndrome was the other fight. Foreclosures tempted her, but Minnesota is a non-judicial state where notices post six weeks before sale and pulling them from newspapers is tedious. She even paid $97 for a PropStream trial she forgot to cancel, downloaded the foreclosure and tax data, and never uploaded it. "I wanted to do it all because it didn't feel fast enough," she says. The decision that settled it: one niche, probate, worked wide across three counties until it is mastered.
What They Built
Pulling probate filings the day they hit the courthouse
Cecilia figured out how to pull probate filings from her counties daily, case number by case number, through the Minnesota court website. The filings carry the petitioner's address and sometimes a phone number, which feeds skip tracing with correct numbers.
Last week, I finally figured out how to pull the probate filings in my market daily.
Killing the copy-paste with a Google Form
The bootcamp spreadsheet needs address, city, and state split into separate columns before upload. Instead of copying and pasting every record, she built a Google Form that drops each filing into the spreadsheet already formatted for her DataSift account.
Running the sequence: call, text, voicemail, then mail
Her April pull produced 83 records, and 54 of the petitioners were absentee owners. Mail goes to the absentees first to keep costs down, while everyone gets calls, texts, and voicemails.
I'm only sending mail to these at first to be cost effective and still call, text, voicemail everyone.
Wiring the phone into the CRM
Kixie integrates with her account, so every call gets a disposition and a recording logged on the record. Her own addition: she uploads the recordings to an AI that summarizes each call into notes.
Before and After
Before DataSift
- Achieved Data Clarity
- Consistent Deal Flow
- Inconsistent Deal Flow
- Poor Marketing Flow
- Little Data Clarity
- Relied On Google Sheets
- Consistent Deal Flow
- Data Clarity / Organization
- Wholesales, Flips And Does Retail
- Strong Marketing Flow
- Didn't Understand Data Management
- Strong Real Estate Agent
- Wanted To Break Into Wholesaling But Didn't Know How
- Healthy Scale
- Data Driven Decisions
- Consistent Deals
- Strong Marketing Flow
- Inconsistent
- Little Data Insight
- Unorganized Bulk Marketing
- Strategic Focus on Niches
- Enhanced Lead Flow and Certainty
- Streamlined Marketing Process
- Efficient Use of Data
- Direct Mail & Deep Prospecting
- Broad, Unfocused Strategy
- Inconsistency in Results
- Dependency on Luck
- Marketing Clarity
- 6 Figure Months
- High Deal Volume
- Strong Marketing Flow
- Proper Data Management
- Weak Marketing Flow
- Poor Data Management
- Lack of Focus
- Manual Efforts
- Successful Scale
- Total Data Clarity
- Clear Marketing Approach
- Large Deal Spreads
- Improper Data Management
- Poor Marketing Method
- Inconsistent Deal Flow
- Strong Marketing Flow
- Clear Data Management
- Clear Data Management
- Successful Scale
- Many ways to close deals
- Large deal spreads
- Poor data management
- Unable to scale properly
- Poor marketing flow
- Smaller Deal Spreads
- Increased Deal Volume
- Platform Utilization
- Realtor Collaboration
- Funding Efforts
- Lots Of Deals
- Data Driven Decisions
- Strong Marketing Flow
- Sales And Marketing Clarity
- Poor Data Management
- Poor Marketing Flow
- Relied On Bulk Marketing
- Lack of Clarity
- Automated Acquisition
- Strong Marketing Flow
- Data Driven Decisions
- Structured Follow-ups
- Increased Lead Generation
- Achieved Sales And Marketing Clarity
- Manual Acquisition Processes
- Ineffective Marketing Flow
- Minimal Lead Insights
- Poor Follow Up Flow
- Inconsistent Lead Generation
- Lacked Sales And Marketing Clarity
After DataSift
- No Deep Understanding Of His Own Data
- Gave Up Bulk Dialing And Texting Years Ago
- Relying On Inbound Leads And Bought Deals
- A Contract Per 12-13 Qualified Leads
- 10,000-record Niche Lists, Filtered Monthly In Sift
- Focused Down To Indiana And Ohio
- Owns The Operation Now, 50-50 Split
- $300K In Spreads In His First 90 Days
- Almost $600K In Contracts Ghosted Or Backed Out
- Five States At Once, Spread Too Thin
- All The Profit Going To Someone Else
- Running An Agency For 14-16 US Investors
- Homegrown Closer Converts Over 20% Of Offers
- Text Blasts First, Smaller Call Lists After
- Whole Philadelphia Metro Recycled Through Rehash Campaigns
- Sequences And Lists Fully Dialed In
- Over 50 Deals A Year Across Two Companies
- New Construction Plans Stalled By Rates And Costs
- Deep Prospecting Alone, Before Any System
- Two Cheap College Duplexes, Bought With A Partner
- Everything Done By 6pm
- $1,500-1,800 A Month Total Marketing Spend
- 150 Dials A Day, First To Market
- 200 Probates A Month From Weekly Courthouse Runs
- $800K A Year Running Solo
- No Online County Data In His Market
- Long Hours Getting The Business Started
- Years Of Flips And Contractor Headaches
- Tuesday At 2 Hunts Generate His Own Deals
- 4 Deals And $330K Equity In 30 Days
- Sales Leader Owns Leads, Casey Tunes Systems
- 325,000 County Records, Scrubbed Nightly By VAs
- Full Operation: Acquisitions Agents, Sales Leader, VA Data Team
- Team Waiting On Leads To Come In
- Doing Well, But Knew He Could Do More
- Watching Every Lead Himself, Day To Day
- Callers Grinding Through Manual Data
- Two-man Team: Casey Plus One Acquisitions Guy
- Cutting edge 1-1 sales and marketing integration
- Improved accuracy when making offers and estimating rehab costs
- Leak proof communication between clients, buyers and contractors
- Thorough marketing and acquisitions from anywhere in the world
- Real estate companies that want documented communications with contractors, clients and buyers
- Wholesalers who want to enter into new markets
- Investors looking to have leak proof marketing and acquisitions
- Anyone looking to wholesale virtually
- A significant boost in confidence to create a great life for you and your family.
- Tips and tools to maintain a steady flow of income, regardless of external circumstances.
- Knowledge of how to succeed in any market condition.
- An understanding of how to achieve long-term success with solid marketing processes.
- A big boost in confidence to make a great life for you and your family.
- Tips and tools you can use to get a steady flow of money coming in, no matter what's happening out there.
- Learned how to succeed in any market condition.
- Understanding of how to achieve long-term success with solid marketing processes.
- Anyone, regardless of budget, looking for a strong start to avoid common mistakes.
- Business owners who want to have simple processes for their VA's to follow.
- Investors willing to create a steady monthly income to secure the future of their family.
- Those who tried many ways to succeed but still aren't seeing good results.
- Efficient KPI Tracking
- Enhanced Follow Up Process
- Data Driven Decisions
- Fully Integrated With REISift
- Streamlined Sales & Marketing Flow
- Enhanced lead management
- Unorganized Data
- Expensive/Ineffective Tech Stack
- Basic Marketing Approach
- Poor Data Management
- Unorganized Processes
- Refined Direct Mail Strategy
- Clarity In All Business Operations
- Enhanced Team Management
- Strong Lead Management Flow
- Advanced Data Tracking
- Effective Marketing Flow
- Limited Marketing
- Targeting Constraints
- Poor Lead Management
- Difficult Team Management
- Reactive Marketing
- Ineffective Marketing Flow
- Empowered Data Management
- First to Market Strategy
- Automated Processes
- Strategic Focus
- Improved Lead Prioritization
- Enhanced Data Tracking
- Low Level CRM
- Successful But Hitting a Wall
- Missed Opportunities
- Poor Data Management
- Data Driven Decisions
- Full Data Clarity
- Consistent Deal Flow
- Strong Marketing Flow
- Lacked Marketing Clarity
- Difficult Marketing Flow
- Inconsistent Deal Flow
- Strong Lead Management Flow
- Strong Marketing Flow
What changed
Cecilia figured out how to pull probate filings from her counties daily, case numbers included, straight from the Minnesota court website. A Google Form she built formats each record for upload into DataSift, so she skips the copy and paste. She calls, texts, and leaves voicemail for every petitioner, and mails the absentee ones first to stay cost effective.
Of her first 83 April records, 54 petitioners were absentee. The full month came to about 200 probate filings across the state. Day one of calling produced one hot lead and tons of correct numbers, with call-ins now coming off the mail.
A lot of people track their leads in their CRM, but they're not tracking the data side of things and how to really squeeze the deals out of the records that you've already purchased.
The Results
The April numbers: 83 probate records pulled, 54 of them absentee petitioners, so roughly two of every three records got a cost-effective mail piece on top of the calls. Her first day of calling produced a hot lead and a stack of correct numbers. Direct mail is now generating inbound calls, and the statewide April probate count came to about 200 records.
The contrast is the before and after. A year ago she was inside someone else's operation in California with nothing of her own. Now a one-person company runs a daily pull, mail, and call flow with a rehash backlog compounding behind it. No deal had closed on camera yet, and she says so. Her plan for the first assignment fee is already set: reinvest it into her first hire for data pulling or outreach.
If they can do it, I can do it.
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