40 properties in under 4 months on full-time W2s
Two construction managers stacked a $50 county tax delinquent list with Listsource absentee data and wholesaled about 40 properties before ever leaving their W2s.
About
David and Preston run Forefront Investments in Tulsa, Oklahoma while holding full-time construction management jobs. They started wholesaling in October 2019 and covered about 40 properties in four months, including a 30-house package from one cold call.
Operating market
Tulsa, OK
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The Challenge
In August 2019 David and Preston were construction managers sharing an office at a Tulsa general contractor. Preston drove 45 minutes each way, and 12-hour days were normal. They wanted to flip a house, so they called realtors, set MLS searches, and shopped Craigslist and Facebook Marketplace. Nothing penciled. They tried door knocking and driving for dollars next and were not seeing much for the effort.
A coworker connected them to a local investor named Armani, and one coaching call reset the whole approach. Until then their system was a printed spreadsheet and two cell phones in a parking lot. Armani pointed them to list stacking, Podio, and Tyler Austin's YouTube channel, all in the same day. Podio was, in their words, "a rough start." They kept the skepticism but funded the build anyway, redirecting the money they usually spent going out on weekends. "Let's do it the right way, let's build a solid foundation."
What They Built
Stacking a $50 county list before the first dial
Their first data buy was about $650: a tax delinquent list from the county for roughly $50 and high equity absentee records from Listsource. Around 15,000 records went into DataSift, and the first campaign was a two-stack of those lists. The vacancy filter surfaced their first deal, a $40,000 ask they contracted at $20,000 for a quick $5,000 assignment. Total cost to launch the business came in under $1,000. The advice they give anyone starting now:
Get a couple lists and stack them to find that, you know, maximize your motivation and just go for it.
Handing off the dials inside two weeks
David and Preston logged 10 to 15 hours of cold calling each, then hired a local caller at $10 an hour. He pulled five to six leads a day from 90 second conversations and locked up their first contracts. Six weeks later they let him go; "his willingness to learn was zero." A Philippines VA at $6 an hour replaced him, about $1,000 a month, calling weekends too. They hired and fired six people in four months and kept dialing through all of it.
Selling 29 houses through property management companies
They had never marketed a portfolio. They posted the 29-house package in the Tulsa real estate investors Facebook group, then David started cold calling property management companies for quotes.
I'm a wholesaler, I'm trying to sell twenty nine properties here, and I have some buyers that are interested.
The best quote came back at 7 percent on an $18,500 monthly rent roll. Two managers sent the package to investor clients, which produced a backup offer at $825,000. They took the $800,000 buyer instead, the one who accepted the seller's no walkthrough clause.
Texting county niche lists for about $200
From mid December they chased foreclosure, probate, eviction, and water shutoff lists at the county, hard lists to get. In January they "started hitting niche lists with Textmagic" on top of the cold calling. About $200 in texts locked up three contracts inside three weeks.
Before and After
Before DataSift
- No Deep Understanding Of His Own Data
- Gave Up Bulk Dialing And Texting Years Ago
- Relying On Inbound Leads And Bought Deals
- A Contract Per 12-13 Qualified Leads
- 10,000-record Niche Lists, Filtered Monthly In Sift
- Focused Down To Indiana And Ohio
- Owns The Operation Now, 50-50 Split
- $300K In Spreads In His First 90 Days
- Almost $600K In Contracts Ghosted Or Backed Out
- Five States At Once, Spread Too Thin
- All The Profit Going To Someone Else
- Running An Agency For 14-16 US Investors
- Homegrown Closer Converts Over 20% Of Offers
- Text Blasts First, Smaller Call Lists After
- Whole Philadelphia Metro Recycled Through Rehash Campaigns
- Sequences And Lists Fully Dialed In
- Over 50 Deals A Year Across Two Companies
- New Construction Plans Stalled By Rates And Costs
- Deep Prospecting Alone, Before Any System
- Two Cheap College Duplexes, Bought With A Partner
- Everything Done By 6pm
- $1,500-1,800 A Month Total Marketing Spend
- 150 Dials A Day, First To Market
- 200 Probates A Month From Weekly Courthouse Runs
- $800K A Year Running Solo
- No Online County Data In His Market
- Long Hours Getting The Business Started
- Years Of Flips And Contractor Headaches
- Tuesday At 2 Hunts Generate His Own Deals
- 4 Deals And $330K Equity In 30 Days
- Sales Leader Owns Leads, Casey Tunes Systems
- 325,000 County Records, Scrubbed Nightly By VAs
- Full Operation: Acquisitions Agents, Sales Leader, VA Data Team
- Team Waiting On Leads To Come In
- Doing Well, But Knew He Could Do More
- Watching Every Lead Himself, Day To Day
- Callers Grinding Through Manual Data
- Two-man Team: Casey Plus One Acquisitions Guy
- Cutting edge 1-1 sales and marketing integration
- Improved accuracy when making offers and estimating rehab costs
- Leak proof communication between clients, buyers and contractors
- Thorough marketing and acquisitions from anywhere in the world
- Real estate companies that want documented communications with contractors, clients and buyers
- Wholesalers who want to enter into new markets
- Investors looking to have leak proof marketing and acquisitions
- Anyone looking to wholesale virtually
- A significant boost in confidence to create a great life for you and your family.
- Tips and tools to maintain a steady flow of income, regardless of external circumstances.
- Knowledge of how to succeed in any market condition.
- An understanding of how to achieve long-term success with solid marketing processes.
- A big boost in confidence to make a great life for you and your family.
- Tips and tools you can use to get a steady flow of money coming in, no matter what's happening out there.
- Learned how to succeed in any market condition.
- Understanding of how to achieve long-term success with solid marketing processes.
- Anyone, regardless of budget, looking for a strong start to avoid common mistakes.
- Business owners who want to have simple processes for their VA's to follow.
- Investors willing to create a steady monthly income to secure the future of their family.
- Those who tried many ways to succeed but still aren't seeing good results.
- Efficient KPI Tracking
- Enhanced Follow Up Process
- Data Driven Decisions
- Fully Integrated With REISift
- Streamlined Sales & Marketing Flow
- Enhanced lead management
- Unorganized Data
- Expensive/Ineffective Tech Stack
- Basic Marketing Approach
- Poor Data Management
- Unorganized Processes
- Refined Direct Mail Strategy
- Clarity In All Business Operations
- Enhanced Team Management
- Strong Lead Management Flow
- Advanced Data Tracking
- Effective Marketing Flow
- Limited Marketing
- Targeting Constraints
- Poor Lead Management
- Difficult Team Management
- Reactive Marketing
- Ineffective Marketing Flow
- Empowered Data Management
- First to Market Strategy
- Automated Processes
- Strategic Focus
- Improved Lead Prioritization
- Enhanced Data Tracking
- Low Level CRM
- Successful But Hitting a Wall
- Missed Opportunities
- Poor Data Management
- Data Driven Decisions
- Full Data Clarity
- Consistent Deal Flow
- Strong Marketing Flow
- Lacked Marketing Clarity
- Difficult Marketing Flow
- Inconsistent Deal Flow
- Strong Lead Management Flow
- Strong Marketing Flow
After DataSift
- Tens of Thousands Spent on Masterminds That Never Fit
- Got Crushed Wholesaling Cleveland Virtually From New York
- Career-biggest payoff under agreement after a year of deep prospecting
- A 1,300-lead vacant property gold mine in two counties
- One shared database with his agent wife for three years
- Guru models demanded VAs and a big company he never wanted
- His investing and her listing business never connected
- Ten years flipping houses with no shared system
- One Call and One Text Found His Last Buyer
- A Deal About Every Three Weeks, Pushing for Two
- Eight Deals Working in the Middle of the Slowdown
- A $7,000 Mail Campaign Went Out at 56 Percent of Value
- Three to Five Active Listings in Every Subdivision He Underwrites
- Colorado Prices Down 9 to 11 Percent by May
- Callers Hunt Correct Numbers, Closers Take Over
- Returned Mail Tagged And Worked As Its Own Bucket
- 6 Deals In One Month From Year-Old Data
- Eight Months In Before Working The Data Right
- Bulk Dials On Call Tools Produced Nothing
- 100K Records Added, Team Spinning Its Wheels
- Mail, three call attempts, then the rehash pool
- 150 records a month, skip traced twice before dialing
- Full authority probates only, five Southern California counties
- 15 to 20 grand across seven months of last year
- Calling agents and MLS, never direct to seller
- No CRM, just a phone, a computer, and email
- $56K Largest Single Assignment
- A VA Pulls County Probate Data Daily
- $5,300 Total Expenses, About $441 A Month
- $210K In Fees From 7 Deals In A Year
- Every Conversation Started Cold
- No Pipeline, No Aged Database, No Team
- Random Calling On Whatever Records He Found
- Started September 2023 With No Probate Experience
- $95K Spread Closed In 21 Days
- All Four Questions Answered On Every Lead
- 120 Qualified Sellers In The Pipeline
- $1M+ Company With SMS As The Core Channel
- Tracking It All In Podio, Then Another CRM
- Doing What Everybody Else Was Doing
- Downloading Every Record Providers Would Give Him
- Churn And Burn Message Blasts
- One Contract For Every 10 Leads
- 100% Of Deals Sourced Inside The System
- $1M+ In Assignment Fees In 2023
- Almost All Deal Flow From Driving For Dollars
- Bouncing Between Tools Looking For One That Stuck
- Leads Tracked In Excel Sheets, Antiquated And Scattered
- First Flip Finished And Live On Market
- Partner Funding Instead Of 18-22% Hard Money
- Probate Cleared In A Week And A Half
- About One Deal Per 15 To 20 Doors
- Door Knocks The Foreclosure List Top To Bottom
- Severely In Debt, Couldn't Keep Up
- A Couple Of Years To Get In Gear
- Worked Hard For Two Weeks, Then Stopped
- 12 Years In Oil And Gas, Then Nothing Left
- $10K Deal From A Q3 Not Interested Lead
- Follow Up Brought The Seller Down $40,000
- Two First To Market Contracts In One Week
- Dedicated Caller Works The First To Market Flow
- Eviction Records Pulled Straight From Two Counties
- Outbound Marketing Completely Phased Out
- Credit Card Debt From Bad Marketing Advice
- Two Years Of Shiny Object Crash And Burn
- Absurd Data Subscription Costs Draining The Business
- $61,644 Net From A Lien List Rehash
- Tracks Wrong Numbers, Cuts Skip Trace Spend
- Emails The Township For Exact Lien Payoffs
- Rehash Filters: Mobile Numbers, No Response, Liens
- Next Day Follow Up Text Gets The Reply
- Lien Lead Silent Since February 2024
- No Follow Up Text After A Silent First Message
- Unknowingly Recycling The Same Data
- Pulling 10,000 Record Lists The Old Way
- 15 Heirs Signed, $37,500 In One Month
- Skip Trace, Upload To Sift, Call Fast
- Small Problem Lists Over Huge Data Sets
- Targets Deeds Of Trust 12 Years Or Older
- Checks County Foreclosure Postings Every Morning
- Bulk Absentee And Owner Marketing Dried Up
- 150 Mile Days Driving Project To Project
- Six Renovations Running At One Time
- Full Time Rehabbing Since 2015
- Sellers Now Calling In From Her Mail
- One Hot Lead Plus Tons Of Correct Numbers
- Mails Only The 54 Absentee Petitioners First
- Google Form Auto Formats Data For Upload
- Pulls Probate Filings Daily Across Three Counties
- Left A Company, Unsure She Could Pull It Off
- Tedious Copy And Paste List Formatting
- Struggled To Pull Data From Her County
- Years In California Trying To Figure It Out
- 135,000 Records Organized Into Buckets
- A Lead Every 10-15 Calls
- Pre-probate Inherited Niche, 60% Sell Within Two Years
- New Process Closed Its First Deal In 30 Days
- Thursday Deep Research, Offer Accepted By Monday
- PropStream Lists And Bought Probate Data
- Return Mail Dead-ended, Records Sat Dormant For Years
What changed
December 4, 2019, two months in. Their cold caller reached a Tulsa landlord on the tax delinquent and high equity two-stack, and the note was short: he would sell, he had more properties, he was ready to retire. David called back the same day. "He didn't know how many properties he had when I called him." A search of the seller's name on the county site pulled 31 records. They met in person and worked through the list one address at a time, the seller quoting every rent from memory. Two months of dialing had put a 30-house portfolio in front of two W2 construction managers.
The Results
The December 4 lead became one master contract: 30 properties at $725,000. They sold 29 as a single package for $800,000 and kept the last house. The assignment came to about $73,000 after costs, and Tyler rounds the fee to $75,000 on the call. The house they kept is 1,800 square feet, worth $170,000 to $180,000, renting at $900 with about $1,300 possible after turnover. Add it up and one cold call produced roughly $253,000 in cash and equity.
Four months in, the totals: about 12 contracts covering roughly 40 properties on about $10,000 of total spend, including a house bought for $2,500. They generated 347 leads, about 35 leads per deal, against the 60 Tyler calls typical. A $20,000 assignment from an absentee cold call was set to close the Tuesday after filming. Preston's read: "Literally the last four months have been the most extreme roller coaster I think David and I have ever been on."
It's not rocket science. All it literally is, just do it.
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I'm running bulk SMS through another tool. Do I still need this?
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I want to do bulk marketing. I don't want to niche-prospect.
Run bulk. If you want the framework, Bulk Sequential is the one we teach — same flow as Niche Sequential, just at volume through power-dial integrations and bulk mail. If you already have a bulk approach that works, DataSift tracks the dispositions, the wrong numbers, the responses, and the rehash pool either way.
I'm a one-person operation. Is this overkill?
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Will my team actually use this?
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What happens to records nobody ever reaches?
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Won't this take weeks to set up?
The default account ships with the four core Filter Preset folders, SiftLine boards, statuses, sequences, and task presets already wired. The Niche Sequential and Bulk Sequential workflows are recommended structures that go on top — typically added the same day you pull your first list.
How does a record get to me as an AQS?
The Lead Manager qualifies the lead, gathers motivation, and moves the card to "Send to Acquisitions" in the SiftLine board. The moment that card moves, a sequence fires: the Make Offer task is created, assigned to the AQS, and the card appears on the Acquisitions Board. The AQS doesn't set anything up. They open their Make Offer filter in the morning and it's already there.
For teams with multiple AQS people, tasks can be round-robin assigned so work distributes automatically across the team.
How many Acquisitions people do I need?
Fewer than you think. One dialed-in AQS inside DataSift can handle five or more offers a day. Before you hire a second AQS, hire a Lead Manager first — and make sure your first AQS is hitting their daily offer quota. The default build handles the prioritization, the follow-ups, and the handoffs. The person handles the conversation.
What if my AQS doesn't follow the system?
The Activity Log keeps everyone honest. Every offer, every follow-up, every call is stamped to the record. The Offer Follow-Up Overdue filter and No Tasks filter catch anything that fell through. The Lead Manager owns every lead — even while it's in AQS hands — and has every right to hold the AQS accountable for overdue tasks.
What's the offer follow-up cadence?
Make the offer on Day 0. Follow up Day 1, Day 2, Day 3, then Day 5. Call or text each time. If the seller needs more time, apply the task and change the due date — don't skip it. If there's no decision after one week, the contract expires and you restart the offer. Keep mailing the record until a contract is actually signed.
What does "Seller Considering" mean?
It's the offer status between "made" and "accepted or rejected." When a seller says they need time to think, update the offer to Considering and let the follow-up sequence run. It keeps the record visible in your Offer Follow-Up filter, tracks the offer against your KPIs, and makes sure no open offer sits without a next action.
How do we learn from rejected offers?
Tag rejected offers with "Review Rejected." At the end of every week, filter by that tag and do a call review with a team member. Once reviewed, swap the tag to "Reviewed Rejected." Over time you'll see patterns — objections you can handle differently, deal structures you're not using. Closing more deals starts with understanding why you're losing them.
Should I automate the offer follow-up tasks right away?
Not yet. Run the manual process first. Get consistent. The goal is to show up every day and do the work until it becomes second nature — then add the automation as a reward for the consistency, not a shortcut around it. One sequence worth adding early: auto-attach a Make Offer task when a card moves to the Make Offer phase. Everything else, do manually until you've built the habit.
What about the deals I lose — are they gone?
No. Rejected the offers recycle to Lead Management for nurture. No-decision records stay in the system with follow-up tasks.
Won't this take weeks to set up?
No. Your account ships with the Acquisitions Board, Task Presets, Sequences, and all eight Filter Presets already wired. Add your team, pull your first list from Lead Management, and you're making offers the same afternoon.
How does a deal get to dispositions?
The moment a contract is signed in Acquisitions, the record updates to Under Contract. That status change fires a sequence: the card moves to the Transactions Board, a Process Contract task is created and assigned to the Dispositions Coordinator, and the record is ready to route. The coordinator opens their task queue and it's already there.
What's the difference between the Transactions Board and the exit boards?
The Transactions Board is the hub — every contract lands there first. The coordinator reviews the deal, sets the exit type, and the card routes automatically. Wholesale, Flips, and Rentals each have their own phase columns and task presets built for that exit. The Transactions Board holds the Closed and Fell Through statuses — when a deal finishes, the card auto-removes from the active view.
What's the difference between the Wholesale, Flips, and Rentals boards?
Each board has its own phases and task presets. Wholesale moves through buyer activation, offer selection, and assignment. Flips move through scoping, rehab, and listing. Rentals move through scoping, tenant placement, and occupancy. Set the exit type and the card routes automatically.
How do I manage my buyers list?
Your buyers list is a pre-built list inside DataSift. Add buyers as records, tag them by buy box — market, price range, property type, cash or financed. When a wholesale deal is ready, filter by criteria, select the right buyers, and reach out directly from the record. Every conversation and offer logs on the deal.
How do I track profit across different exit types?
Every closed deal logs purchase price, total expenses, exit price or assignment fee, and net profit. Filter by exit type, month, or source list — no spreadsheet, no exporting. The data is on the record.
Can I run wholesale and flipping at the same time?
Yes. Both boards run independently inside the same account. Each has its own statuses, tasks, and sequences. One account, two pipelines, clean separation between them.
What happens to deals that fall through?
They update to Fell Through on the Transactions Board — the card auto-removes from the active view, a review task fires, and the record stays active. The seller is still in your account. Any future contact connects back to the original record. You never lose a deal. You sometimes lose the timing.
How do I know nothing is falling through the cracks?
Use the STAB-THEM check on every record: Status, Tasks, Assignee, Board, Messages. Run the Deals Missing Task filter daily — it surfaces every active deal without a next step. Every deal always has a status. Every status always has a next task.
How do I reverse engineer a closed deal?
Filter closed deals by source list, exit type, or marketing channel. Open any record and the full history is there — first marketing touch to closed exit. Days-to-close, profit, deal source, every step in between. That's your playbook for where to spend your next marketing dollar.
Won't this take weeks to set up?
No. Your account ships with all six SiftLine boards, task presets, sequences, and filter presets already wired. Learn the manual flow first — run deals step by step before leaning on automations. Once you understand each phase, the automations become something you earn. Most operators are running a live dispositions pipeline the same week they get in.
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DataSift provides pay per skip pricing as well as a fixed $97 a month unlimited skiptracing add on. Unlimited skiptracing comes with the Expert and AI Plans automatically
What lists can I pull inside DataSift?
Free Lists
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- Low Equity
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SiftMap Pro Lists
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- Pre-Foreclosures - Lis Pendens
- Pre-Foreclosures - Notice of Foreclosure
- Pre-Foreclosures - Final Judgement
- Pre-Foreclosures - Court Order
- State Tax Lien
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When you create a new DataSift account (or enable the default build if you're an existing user), you'll have:
- Pre-built SiftLine Boards
- Default Lists, Tags, and Phone Tags for easy organization
- Pre-set Property Statuses and Contact Statuses
- Task Presets for Lead Management, Acquisitions, and Transactions.
- Saved Filter Presets to quickly filter for tasks.
- Ready-to-go Sequences (Automations) for smooth daily workflows
How does DataSift work for Commercial Real Estate & Land?
Yes! You can manage any prospect with an address in DataSift. No street address for vacant land? No worries. Upload using the APN/Parcel ID as street address. Then it’s a matter of skiptracing and running a marketing campaign in Sift.
